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	<title>Requisite Danger &#187; Eschatology</title>
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		<title>Maintaining Hearts of Tranquility in Times of Global Turmoil</title>
		<link>http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2011/04/15/maintaining-hearts-of-tranquility-in-times-of-global-turmoil/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="wp-caption-text">Tri and Nancy Robinson (picture courtesy of trirobinson.org)</p> <p>There is a lot of fear in the world today about the future. People are scared of earthquakes, super volcanoes, political shutdowns, and the apocalyptic Second Coming of Jesus.</p> <p>Some of this fear is good as it prompts us to prepare both our hearts and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_3347" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 190px"><a href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2011/04/picturetimber-064-230x300.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3347" title="picturetimber-064-230x300" src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2011/04/picturetimber-064-230x300.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="271" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tri and Nancy Robinson (picture courtesy of trirobinson.org)</p></div>
<p>There is a lot of fear in the world today about the future. People are scared of earthquakes, super volcanoes, political shutdowns, and the apocalyptic Second Coming of Jesus.</p>
<p>Some of this <em>fear </em>is good as it prompts us to prepare both our hearts and our lives. Yet, unchecked fear is a bad thing.</p>
<p>It is to this unchecked fear that I would like to highlight <a href="http://trirobinson.org/?page_id=2">Tri Robinson&#8217;s</a> recent article entitled,<a href="http://trirobinson.org/?p=286"><em> &#8220;Maintaining Hearts of Tranquility in Times of Global Turmoil.&#8221;</em></a></p>
<p>This article captured my heart on the subject of global turmoil so beautifully I had to share it with you all.  <img src='http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here are the five points Tri makes:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>1. Simplify your life </strong>– &#8220;Physically, emotionally and spiritually. Most of our lives have become cluttered with material things, out of control emotions and wrong choices which have not only complicated our lives but caused a form of paralyzing dysfunction.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>2. Be prepared for short term crises</strong>– &#8220;Having the experience of working in disasters such as Hurricane Katrina it became evident to me that people who took basic steps of preparedness recovered much quicker than those who became dependent on government help. Not only that, but many of those with the mindset to be prepared also became the workforce that served others in the aftermath of the crisis.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><span id="more-3346"></span>3. Work towards long term sustainability</strong> – &#8220;Storing food and water will never take the place of a sustainable lifestyle. Sustainability takes foresight and long term planning. It requires a plan to become debt-free and a new lifestyle which doesn’t demand a huge salary or a consumer mentality.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>4. Live in community</strong> – &#8220;Being a part of a functional community of faith is crucial today. Historically we know that people who worked together holding onto what the Bible refers to as “having one heart and one mind” have always done better than those who tried to go it alone during difficult times.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>5. Maintain an eternal perspective</strong> – &#8220;Observing the unraveling world through a shortsighted lens is not only frustrating but downright depressing&#8230;We as God’s people are called to trust in his greater plan of eternity and participate with him in a world that desperately needs people who aren’t responding to global crises in fear but rather offering strength to those caught in the confusion and the suffering.&#8221;</p>
<p>Click <a href="http://trirobinson.org/?p=286">here</a> to read the full article.</p>
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		<title>Ultimate Things: An Orthodox Christian Perspective On The End Times by Dennis Engleman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In some ways, Ultimate Things by Dennis Engleman is a fitting end to a year of eschatological studies. The book focused on strengthening the church for the upcoming struggles against the kingdom of darkness with several chapters devoted to standing firm.</p> <p>At the same time, there were some parts of the book that I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1164" src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2010/01/book-225x300.jpg" alt="book" width="184" height="246" />In some ways, Ultimate Things by Dennis Engleman is a fitting end to a year of eschatological studies. <span style="color: #800000">The book focused on strengthening the church for the upcoming struggles against the kingdom of darkness with several chapters devoted to standing firm.</span></p>
<p>At the same time, there were some parts of the book that I did not like – mainly the parts where the author gets away from Biblical themes and started speculating about how things will be. For example, Engleman looks at Saint Paul’s words in 2 Thess. 2:3-8 about the ‘one’ who is holding back the antichrist and interprets it as a reference to the Christian Monarchy (ie. as long as there is a Christian king/queen on the throne of the Roman Empire, the antichrist will not be reviled).</p>
<p>Note that for Engleman, the Christian Monarchy starts with St. Constantine in 312 AD and continues to death of the Russian Tsar Nicholas II in 1948. <em>(Moscow is concerned the third “Rome” by the Eastern Orthodox following the destruction of Constantinople, which was the second “Rome”</em>).  This begs the question of what kept the “man of lawlessness” from showing up prior to establishment of the Christian Monarchy in 312 AD?  <img src='http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> <span id="more-1163"></span></p>
<p>Luckily, not all Eastern Orthodox scholars interpreted 2 Thess. the way Engleman does – for example, the Father Thomas Hopko (Dean of Saint Vladimir’s Orthodox Seminary) writes in the introduction of the Ultimate Things that he “would take issue with the author” on this point.</p>
<p>One of the best parts of the book comes in the middle when Engleman is discussing the end time prophesies of Daniel. He just finished talking about the seven “weeks” and the “time, times and half a time” when he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Given the scripturally defined duration of the world’s “last week,” it might appear that calculating the time of Christ’s return is elementary. Once the Great Tribulation has begun, one need only watch for the specified events, then count down three and one-half years from the defiling of the Jewish temple. Even the Antichrist, presumably, will be mindful of his “forty-two months,” and expect to battle the Lord only on the last day of the last month.<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>This simple forecast is untrustworthy, however, since it ignores Jesus’ assurance that “of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36)….God, being sovereign, controls the timing of everything….<span style="text-decoration: underline"><strong>The seven years of Daniel’s week may therefore ultimately be vastly shorter or longer then chronological years.</strong></span></em></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #800000">This is a good point to remember when studying the end of the end times.</span></p>
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		<title>Is Pre-Millennialism A Heresy?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One must be careful when studying history &#8211; for history can be likened to a wild tiger with sharp teeth and bared claws.</p> <p>I recently discovered this “dangerous” side of history while researching the theological history of the physical millennial kingdom of Jesus.</p> <p>What was this “dangerous” item found in the dusty manuscripts of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1016" src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2009/11/asset-195x300.jpg" alt="asset" width="159" height="245" />One must be careful when studying history &#8211; for history can be likened to a wild tiger with sharp teeth and bared claws.</p>
<p>I recently discovered this “dangerous” side of history while researching the theological history of the physical millennial kingdom of Jesus.</p>
<p>What was this “dangerous” item found in the dusty manuscripts of old?</p>
<p>It is the knowledge that in 381 A.D. the Church Fathers gathered in Constantinople and declared that the pre-millennialism view of Revelation chapter 20 is a heresy.</p>
<p>Yes – you read that right.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline"><em><span style="color: #003300">The hugely popular pre-millennialism view of eschatology promoted throughout the world by the Protestant church was declared a heresy by the SAME guys who canonized the New Testament!!!</span></em></span></p>
<p><em><strong>Wow!</strong></em><span id="more-1015"></span></p>
<p>Talk about sharp teeth… that simple fact changes a lot of things… It also brings up a TON of questions… like, why don’t Protestant theologians talk about this council in their commentaries on Revelation?  The only reason I found out about it was through reading an Eastern Orthodox commentary… =/</p>
<p>Personally, I think the reason we don’t hear about it in Protestant circles is because most Protestants discount and/or throw always all the early church councils. They cry out “sola scripture” without realizing that<span style="text-decoration: underline"> they are fighting all the SAME battles the early church fought 1500+ years ago!</span></p>
<p>Yet, instead of listening to the wisdom of the Church Fathers, <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #800000">Protestants tend to pick and choose which doctrines or decisions they will or will not accept</span></span>. Granted, there came a time with the Church councils started going off track – but that should not stop us from looking at the early councils BEFORE they went bad.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><span style="color: #008000">Note: Most of Christianity (Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Anglican) accepts the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Councils" target="_blank">first seven church councils</a> – which happened between 325 to 787 A.D.</span></em></p>
<p>Going back to the question of pre-millennialism – it is worth nothing that it was the<strong> SECOND</strong> Church Council who declared it as heresy and accepted amillennialism as Church doctrine. This was not a renegade council full of heretics – it was a decision made by the same people who 16 years later <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament#Canonization" target="_blank">canonized the Bible</a> (397 A.D.).</p>
<p>Armed with this knowledge, the question now becomes:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000">“If we trust the Church Fathers with picking which letters to include in the Bible, why don’t we trust them with items pertaining to eschatology?”</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline">My point in all this?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000">Mainly that history has teeth – and that it would do us all good to look at what our Fathers taught and debated.</span> It could help stop a lot of problems and disagreements.</p>
<p>Something to thing about…</p>
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		<title>The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity</title>
		<link>http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2009/11/09/the-apocalypse-in-the-teachings-of-ancient-christianity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="wp-caption-text">The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity</p> <p>A few months ago I mentioned that I was trying to find a commentary on the Book of Revelation from the Eastern Orthodox Church. Well, I found one – The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity. Originally written in Russian by Archbishop Averky Taushev, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_953" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 205px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-953 " src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2009/11/The-Apocalyps-2-300x224.jpg" alt="The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity" width="195" height="146" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity</p></div>
<p>A<a href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2009/09/17/eschatology-and-the-eastern-orthodox-church/" target="_blank"> few months ago</a> I mentioned that I was trying to find a commentary on the Book of Revelation from the Eastern Orthodox Church. Well, I found one – <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Teachings-Ancient-Christianity/dp/0938635670" target="_blank"><em>The Apocalypse: In The Teachings of Ancient Christianity</em></a>. Originally written in Russian by Archbishop Averky Taushev, it was translated into English by Father Seraphim Rose in 1985.</p>
<p>In a nutshell – <span style="color: #800000">it was the best book on Revelations I have ever read.</span></p>
<p>Yeah. It was that good.</p>
<p><em>Why?</em></p>
<p>Well, for starters the book wasn’t about trying to map out the “end times”, find out what everything John means and how it plays together in the 21st century. Instead, the commentary was written with the knowledge that Revelation is a book of mysteries:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000">The deep things bound up with the beginning and end of all things, the ultimate purpose of the world and man, the opening of the eternal Kingdom of Heaven; and so <span style="text-decoration: underline">we must read it with fear of God, and with a humble distrust of our own wisdom.</span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-954"></span>Keeping with this heart, Archbishop Taushev takes the reader through a journey of Revelation; highlighting the Glory of God and His triumph over evil. <span style="color: #800000">It is a book that will leave you encouraged and strengthened – instead of confused about how it all “works.”</span></p>
<p>God is in control. He gave St. John the vision of Revelation not to confuse or to trouble His people. But to encourage and uplift them in their times of trouble – that is what the Orthodox view of the end times does; and what the Protestant view often lacks.</p>
<p>Another thing I love about this commentary is Archbishop Taushev’s use of the Church Fathers. For example, a lot of the material in the book is from St. Andrew of Caesarea commentary on Revelation written in the 5th Century – which is one of the best books about Revelation written by the Ancient Fathers.</p>
<p>In addition to seeing what the Church Fathers had to say about Revelation, Archbishop Taushev quotes passages from the Old and New Testament relating to the subject at hand. He does this in a way that I have not seen before – as in he actually quotes entire passages instead of just referencing verses or taking out small portions. This allows the reader to see what is happening and make their own choices.</p>
<p>As I type this review, I wish I could take the time and quote pages of <em>The Apocalypse</em> so you all could see the difference… yet that is not possible for several reasons…. Sigh.</p>
<p>I guess I shall end with this simple statement:</p>
<h4><span style="color: #008080">When it comes to the Second Coming of Christ, the Eastern Orthodox Church has the heart of God more then us Protestants.</span></h4>
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		<title>The Blessed Hope: A Biblical Study of the Second Advent and the Rapture</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At the heart of Biblical redemptive truth is the Blessed hope of the personal, glorious second advent of Jesus Christ. Salvation has to do both with the redemption of men as individuals and as a society. Salvation of individual believers includes the “redemption of the body” (Rom. 8:23). We must not only be saved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000">At the heart of Biblical redemptive truth is the Blessed hope of the personal, glorious second advent of Jesus Christ. Salvation has to do both with the redemption of men as individuals and as a society. Salvation of individual believers includes the “redemption of the body” (Rom. 8:23). We must not only be saved from the guilt of sin, and delivered from the power of sin. Redemption is not completed until we are delivered from the very effects of sin in our moral bodies. The Biblical doctrine of the resurrection is a redemptive truth: it means the salvation of the body. This salvation will be realized only by the personal second coming of Christ.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>So begins the introduction of George Ladd’s book <em>The Blessed Hope: A Biblical Study of the Second Advent and the Rapture.</em></p>
<div id="attachment_945" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 167px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-945" src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/files/2009/11/ladd-225x300.jpg" alt="The Blessed Hope by George Ladd" width="157" height="210" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Blessed Hope by George Ladd</p></div>
<p>A fairly easy read, this book tackles a very important issue into today’s church: the substitution of the rapture in place of the Second Coming of Christ.</p>
<p>Think for a minute – if you were to stop your average every-day Christian on the street and ask them what they are looking forward to when Christ comes back, what would they say? I guess that most of them would tell you that they are looking forward to the rapture when they will be taken out of this world.</p>
<p><strong>Yet, Biblical the rapture is not our hope.</strong></p>
<p>Our hope, our Blessed Hope – as Ladd would say – is with the return of the King of Kings. That we may dwell with Him on a renewed earth. That is what we need to be looking forward too – not a pre-tribulation rapture that takes us out of the world like a cosmic escape hatch.<span id="more-943"></span></p>
<p>To help remind people of this hope, Ladd starts by looking at the beginning of pre-tribulation rapture theology in history before going on to look at the Biblical evidence about the rapture.</p>
<p>The historical overview was very impacting to me as it turns out that no one in the church ever thought about a pre-tribulation rapture until 1827. Before then, the church held to the view that the church would join Jesus in the sky and then continue down to earth for eternity <span style="color: #993300">after the tribulation</span>.</p>
<p>Well kinda… in the 1600 to 1700’s the Protestant church started to believe in post-millennialism as they thought all the world’s problems could be solved through scientific means. In reaction to this, a group of Plymouth Brethren believers in Dublin,  Ireland, came up with the idea of a “secret rapture.” S. P. Tregelles gives this eye-witness account of the meeting:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000">It was from that suppose revelation that the modern doctrine and the modern phraseology respecting it arose. It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>This is not to say that God can not speak through the Spirit. Instead this quote serves to highlight the fact that the concept of a pre-tribulation rapture did not come from a study of the Bible. In fact, most of those folks who originally bought into the concept later<span style="text-decoration: underline"> changed their mind <strong>AFTER</strong> studying the Scriptures</span>.</p>
<p><span style="color: #993300">I don’t know about you – but I find it extremely interesting that it took 1800 years for the concept to come to light – even more interesting is the fact that the early church discussed this issue in depth during the 1<sup>st</sup> though 4<sup>th</sup> century and did not walk away from the Bible with a pre-tribulation rapture&#8230;</span></p>
<p>In other words, George Ladd’s book <em>The Blessed Hope</em> is awesome read for those wanting to understand both the historical and Biblical view of the rapture.</p>
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		<title>Eschatology and the Eastern Orthodox Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Eastern Orthodox Church has fascinated me for years. </p> <p>They were the one church that remained faithful to the Teachings of the Apostles when all others broke apart and drifted into darkness.&#160; Unfortunately, the believers in the West do not know much about the Orthodox Church &#8211; shoot, I heard one man this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a id="res_749" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/ParaguayChurch.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/ParaguayChurch.JPG" border="0" width="226" height="300" align="right" /></a>The Eastern Orthodox Church has fascinated me for years. </p>
<p>They were the one church that remained faithful to the Teachings of the Apostles when all others broke apart and drifted into darkness.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the believers in the West do not know much about the Orthodox Church &ndash; shoot, I heard one man this week say that the Orthodox Church was the same as the Roman Catholic Church!!&nbsp; (In case you didn&rsquo;t know, they are <strong>VASTLY</strong> different)</p>
<p>Recently I have had the pleasure of looking into the theology and practice of the Eastern Orthodox Church. It is pretty cool &ndash; <span style="color: #800000">there is something about the way they focus on experiencing God and living with Jesus vs trying to understand Christianity via Bible studies, theology books or conferences as Western Protestantism does (with some exceptions).</span></p>
<p>Another cool thing about Orthodoxy is the fact that the core of their worship has been unchanged for 1600 years. Wow! That is a long, long time&hellip;yet, there is something to be said about faithfulness and enduring; especially in culture that values rapid change and the &ldquo;next best things&rdquo;. </p>
<p>The only negative to this unchanged worship is that it is easy to start relying on the system instead of having to listen to God and seeing what He is doing in the moment <em>(granted, one can go to far the other way and start relying on one&rsquo;s self and the gimmicks of the day&hellip;balance&hellip;it is all about balance)[@more@]<br /></em><br />Seeing how we are studying Revelation in our small groups, I decided to look up what the Eastern Orthodox thought about the end times. It turned out to be harder then what I thought as there are not very many English speaking Orthodox writings&hellip;.sigh. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /></p>
<p>However, <span style="color: #800000">I did find out that the Orthodox Church tends not to focus on the &ldquo;end times.&rdquo; </span>In fact, one site I found mentioned that since Jesus Himself did not know the time, we, as His followers, should not be seeking to know the when&rsquo;s and how&rsquo;s of the Second Coming/Judgment/End Times.&nbsp; Instead, we should be focused on the ministry of Christ: loving God and loving others.</p>
<p>Wow! Man, did my heart rejoice to hear that! Finally a major church that realizes the unhealthy focus on the &ldquo;end times&rdquo; and chooses not to go there; instead they focus on Jesus. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" /></p>
<p>Granted, there are a few Orthodox theologians that have studied the book of Revelation and the &ldquo;end times.&rdquo; By far the majority of them tend to lean towards amillennialism &ndash; which, again, is really cool as personally I lean that way as well. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" />&nbsp; </p>
<p>The goal now is to try to get my hands on a commentary of Revelation from the Orthodox viewpoint&hellip;not just because I <em>&ldquo;agree&rdquo;</em> with them, but because I want to know what God has shown them over the years. <span style="color: #800000">Not only are they coming at the &ldquo;issue&rdquo; from a different branch of Christianity (ie. not Western Protestantism), they are also looking at the Bible through a non-Western culture viewpoint. <br /></span><br />We shall see if can I locate one through the library system&hellip; <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /></p>
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		<title>I Don’t Want To Be Raptured; Leave Me Here!</title>
		<link>http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2009/09/05/i-dont-want-to-be-raptured-leave-me-here/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Theology Thoughts]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>When people talk about the &#8220;great-capital-T&#8221; Tribulation of the coming future they mostly end with this comment: &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be here (on earth) when it happens.&#8221; &#160;</p> <p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m screwed up in the brain for what &#8211; but with all seriousness, I want to be HERE &#8211; on planet [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a id="res_858" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/0417091305.jpg"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/0417091305.jpg" border="0" width="240" height="180" align="right" /></a>When people talk about the &ldquo;great-capital-T&rdquo; Tribulation of the coming future they mostly end with this comment:<em> &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t want to be here (on earth) when it happens.&rdquo; &nbsp;</em></p>
<p>I don&rsquo;t know if I&rsquo;m screwed up in the brain for what &ndash; but with all seriousness, <u>I want to be HERE</u> &ndash; on planet earth &ndash; when things go down. </p>
<p>This isn&rsquo;t a high-brow comment or a holier-then-thou attitude. It is feeling born out of a heart for people. I want to be here with those who are hurting. With those who are crying out for help; with those who are looking and searching for something or someone bigger then themselves or their lives.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000">I don&rsquo;t want to be raptured. I want to stay and go about my Liege&rsquo;s Work.</span></p>
<p>In the words of Noal Richards:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000">Would I stand for injustice? Speak for those who can not speak?</span><br /><span style="color: #008000">Could I be the hand that help the helpless and be your arms that hold the cold and weak?</span><br /><span style="color: #008000">Could I lose the life you gave me? Lay it down with all I own?</span><br /><span style="color: #008000">Will I walk with every pilgrim that walks this road of narrow way of love?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000">I will, I will,</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000">So hear my prayer, let your spirit lead me on to where I stand with the broken</span><br /><span style="color: #008000">It&rsquo;s what Jesus would have done</span><br /><span style="color: #000000">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (from the song &ldquo;What Jesus Would Have Done&rdquo;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>[@more@]Now that I have shocked most of you &ndash; let me back up and explain things a bit more&hellip;<br />The concept of an end time Tribulation (capital &ldquo;T&rdquo; Tribulation as opposed to the small &ldquo;t&rdquo; tribulation of &ldquo;regular&rdquo; Christian life) comes from Revelation 7
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #808000">After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands&hellip;.. and he said, &quot;These are they who have come out of the <u>great tribulation</u>; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. <span style="color: #000000">(Revelations 7:9 &amp; 14)</span></span></p></blockquote>
<p>The typical Pretribulation Dispensational view of this passage syas that this &ldquo;great tribulation&rdquo; is the judgment of God upon the earth after the &ldquo;Church&rdquo; has been removed or raptured from the earth. Folks who are left (ie. those who choose NOT to follow God) have one more chance to turn to Christ &ndash; ie. They must resist the Anit-Christ and be martyred for their faith.</p>
<p>Granted, there are variations on this view point &ndash; namely those who say that the church will be taken out during tribulation, but before the wrath of God&hellip;</p>
<p><u><span style="color: #000000">You want to know something interesting? </span></u>The Pretribulation / Rapture view point came about in the early to mid-1800&rsquo;s in England. In other words, <span style="color: #800000">the concept that the church will be taken out of the earth before the judgment of God is a fairly new idea.</span> </p>
<p><a id="res_752" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/ArgChurch.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/ArgChurch.JPG" border="0" width="193" height="256" align="right" /></a>Plus, it is an idea that can be traced back to one man John Nelson Darby. Granted, just because one dude started the concept does not mean it is invalid. However, I do find it interesting to note that the concept took 1,800 years come about&hellip;and when it did, it was by a guy living in a fairly stable, Christian nation with little to no persecution&hellip; <img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /></p>
<p>Anyway, going back to the Scriptures&hellip;.</p>
<p>The Final Judgment of God was talked about a lot by the Old Testament prophets. In their eyes, the people of Israel (God&rsquo;s people at the time) where to be on the earth at the time of the judgment &ndash; which, it should be noted, would affect both Israel and the Gentile nations. It would be similar to the plagues of the Exodus &ndash; <span style="color: #008000">the unbeliever gets punished why the people of God go unharmed. </span></p>
<p>In addition, Revelation 7:14 is within the context of the seven seals of the scroll. A lot of scholars see this selection (Revelations 6-8) as mirroring Jesus&rsquo; Mt. Olive discourse on the end times (Matthew 24). If that is so, then the seven seals are not end, end time events as much as they are things that are happening in the world between the Ascension of Christ and His Second Coming.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
<p>Meaning that the Great Multitude of Revelation 7 is The Church &ndash; meaning all believers who have ever followed God and have lived through the &ldquo;tribulation&rdquo; and suffering of this Present Evil Age. </p>
<p>Which brings us full circle back to my heart and prayer &#8211; <span style="color: #008000"><em>&ldquo;let your spirit lead me on to where I stand with the broken&rdquo;</em></span></p>
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		<title>How Do You Read The Book of Revelation?</title>
		<link>http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2009/08/28/how-do-you-read-the-book-of-revelation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The book of Revelation is one of the most misunderstood and forgotten books of the Bible. In a nutshell &#8211; it is hard to read. </p> <p>Yeah, there are certain themes and ideas that are easy to understand. Namely the fact that those who follow Christ Jesus win and those who don&#8217;t, lose.</p> <p>As [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a id="res_750" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/ParaguayChurchwithCross.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/ParaguayChurchwithCross.JPG" border="0" width="240" height="185" align="right" /></a>The book of Revelation is one of the most misunderstood and forgotten books of the Bible. In a nutshell &ndash; it is hard to read. </p>
<p>Yeah, there are certain themes and ideas that are easy to understand. <u><span style="color: #800000">Namely the fact that those who follow Christ Jesus win and those who don&rsquo;t, lose.</span></u></p>
<p>As several of you know, I have been attending a Bible study on the book of Revelation through my local church. Well, actually it is a men&rsquo;s group that decided to study the book rather then a specific class about Revelation. </p>
<p>The group is really interesting &ndash; you see, we approach the Bible study differently then most groups. Instead of having a study book or one specific leader, we just read a chapter of the Bible and then talk about it. Each person in the group is encouraged to study the chapter at home the week before so that they are ready to discuss it at the group.</p>
<p>As a result of this group setup, we get all kinds of ideas and thoughts &ndash; which are great! <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" />[@more@]</p>
<p>Yet sometimes it can be hard as each person has a different way of reading Revelations. This bent or worldview can slant the way you read the text &ndash; as such <span style="color: #800000">it is important to have a general knowledge of the different ways you can read the book of Revelations. </span></p>
<p>The first way is to read the book as a first century document. This is usually called the <strong>Preterist view</strong>. People to hold to this view state that John was writing to a first century church about things happening in their life time. Some people even go on to say that all the &ldquo;prophecies&rdquo; in the book where fulfilled during the 1st century.</p>
<p>The second view is the <strong>historical view</strong>. This view claims that Revelations details the full scope of human history (or, as some say, history from the time of Christ to the Second Coming of Christ). Folks who hold this view will read a passage and then look at world history to see if there is a corresponding historical time period. </p>
<p>The third way to read the book is called the <strong>Spiritualist view</strong>. This view says that the entire book of Revelations is taking about the spiritual fight between good and evil. Nothing in the book is literal &ndash; instead, it is all to be taken symbolical.</p>
<div align="left"><a id="res_853" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/coffeecup.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/coffeecup.JPG" border="0" width="155" height="116" align="left" /></a>The fourth and most common way of reading Revelation is the <strong>Futurist view</strong>. Just as the name says, the view looks at the writings of John as events that will happen in the future. People who read the book this way often reference Daniel in their attempt to outline the events of the &ldquo;end times&rdquo;. However, it should be noted that not all futurist hold to time lines &ndash; instead, they just read the book as one long prophecy.</div>
<p>There are other ways of reading Revelations &ndash; but these are the four main views. Most of the others are combinations or variations of these four views.</p>
<p>On a personal level, <span style="color: #008000">I hold to reading Revelations through the eyes of both the Preterist and Futurist view points</span>. This means that I up hold the view that the entire book (not just the first few chapters) had meaning to the 1st century church. <span style="color: #008000"><u>As we read the book, we MUST ask ourselves what did the 1st century church think about the text? How did it affect them? </u></span></p>
<p>At the same time, I recognize that John was writing about the second coming of Christ &ndash; which has not happened yet. As such, when we read Revelations, we must read it with an eye to the future. </p>
<p>Some might say that this can get confusing as how does one know if the scriptures are talking about the future or the past? Yet, I don&rsquo;t think it has to be that confusing as we start by asking ourselves what would the 1st century church think about the scripture in question?</p>
<p>If they would of taken it to be a future text about the second coming (similar to the way we read Paul&rsquo;s writing), then it deals with the future. Those passages that would have been &ldquo;fulfilled&rdquo; in the past &ndash; well, some of them may have a double meaning&hellip; at that time, we need to get on our knees and ask God what He is saying.</p>
<p>However, overall we need to keep our eyes on the context &ndash; historical, cultural, and textual context &ndash; in which the book is written. We must resist the urge to create doctrines based upon one or two scriptures in Revelations &#8211; especially when those scriptures don&rsquo;t seem to have support from the greater context of the entire Bible. <em>(And yes, there are a few verses in Revelation that fall into this category).<br /></em><br />*smile* I can&rsquo;t help be chuckle as it is my determination to read Revelations in the context of the 1st century that keeps getting me into trouble at my Bible study. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" /> Most of the folks there are pure Futurist and as such, don&rsquo;t like to &ndash; or don&rsquo;t understand the need to look at the historically and cultural ideas the 1st century church would have held. </p>
<p>Oh well &ndash; at least it gives the group plenty of &ldquo;life&rdquo; as we debate things. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" /></p>
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		<title>The Eclipse of Christ in Eschatology: Toward a Christ-Centred Approach</title>
		<link>http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/2009/08/20/the-eclipse-of-christ-in-eschatology-toward-a-christ-centred-approach/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>To begin with, I am back from conquering the Sawtooth Wilderness (at least the East to West approach) – it was a great trip full of adventures and beautiful scenery. Lord willing I will try to upload some pictures tonight or Saturday at the latest. </p> Until then, I would like to introduce you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a id="res_853" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/coffeecup.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/coffeecup.JPG" border="0" alt="" width="166" height="124" align="right" /></a>To begin with, I am back from conquering the Sawtooth Wilderness (at least the East to West approach) – it was a great trip full of adventures and beautiful scenery. Lord willing I will try to upload some pictures tonight or Saturday at the latest. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" /></p>
<div>Until then, I would like to introduce you to a new friend: Adrio König.</div>
<p>Adrio König was, until his retirement a few years ago, the professor of Systematic Theology at the University of South Africa. He is a member of the Dutch Reformed Church – which made is book <em>The Eclipse of Christ in Eschatology: Toward a Christ-Centred Approach</em> all the more interesting as it looked at the kingdom of God through a different angle or window then American Evangelicalism.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">One side note before jumping into the book – I just recently realized the difference between a biblical theologian (like George Ladd) and a systematic theologian (Adrio König). A biblical theologian focuses on the details of biblical exegesis or specific books. A systematic theologian takes a step back from the details and looks at the vast landscape of the Bible and Christian doctrine. </span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Knowing this, I realized that I tend to lean towards being a systematic theologian vs a biblical theologian (i.e. big picture vs details). This is interesting as I did not enjoy the systematic theology class of VLI nor the systematic theology book we had to read…. Oh well.</span> <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /></p></blockquote>
<p>Anyway, back to König book <em>The Eclipse of Christ in Eschatology</em>.[@more@]</p>
<p>I wish I could quote some of his words from this book – but I loaned it out already, so I will have to rely on my memory to write this review. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /> Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed the book. It was a bit tough at times to wad through – but not that tough, especially after reading Ladd and other such items.</p>
<p><a id="res_754" href="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/tile.JPG"><img src="http://requisite_danger.bluecastle.us/gallery/2/previews-med/tile.JPG" border="0" alt="" width="131" height="127" align="left" /></a>The main theme or focus on this book was the understanding that Jesus Christ is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">THE end</span>. In the study of eschatology (literally the “study of the end”) people tend to focus on the second coming of Jesus. <span style="color: #800000;">What König does is bring eschatology back to the Biblical idea that Jesus is the eschon (Greek for “the end”)</span> – He is the end and the beginning, the first and the last. <span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Therefore a study of end (end of the word, end of this age, etc) is a study of Jesus Christ</span> </span>- His birth, life, ministry, death, resurrection, ascension and Pentecost (when His Spirit was given to the church).</p>
<p>Why some of this focus on Jesus may come from König Reform background, I believe most of it comes from a strong Biblical foundation. I mean; does not the Torah and prophets all point towards the person of Jesus Christ? Was not the incarnation or God-in-flesh nature of Jesus an end event?</p>
<p>The Bible says that Jesus came to destroy the works of the evil one, to conqueror death, hell, sin, and to redeem all of creation for the glory of God. Each and ever item listed was prophesied by the prophets of old to happen when the Day of Lord came.<span style="color: #800000;"> If Jesus really was God, then the ‘end’ has already come – yet it is also coming still.</span></p>
<p>Adrio König describes this tension in three ways: for us, in us and with us.</p>
<ul>
<li>Jesus has destroyed sin and the evil one <em>(“for us”)</em></li>
<li>Through Jesus, we can become the people of God (<em>“in us”</em>)</li>
<li>In following Jesus, we can, through His Spirit, join with God in doing His works on this earth at this time (<em>“with us”</em>)</li>
</ul>
<p>As you can see, König covered a lot of territory in his book <em>The Eclipse of Christ in Eschatology</em> – territory well worth traveling. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" /></p>
<p>It is actually kind of funny that I just so happen to read this book at this time seeing how our church has started studying Revelation. It was not a planned event as I had bought the book about a year ago – but had loaned it out almost immediately to a fellow journeyer. He returned the book just recently and I started reading – all in God’s timing. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" /></p>
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		<title>The Men of Issachar (1 Chronicles 12:32)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hopping</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Someone should host a &#8220;Top Ten Most Misused Bible Verse&#8221; competition, &#8216;cause 1 Chronicles 12:32 would be right up there near the top! &#160;32 men of Issachar, who understood the times and knew what Israel should do&#8212;200 chiefs, with all their relatives under their command;</p> <p>Humor aside (or attempts thereof) &#8211; I am tired [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should host a &ldquo;Top Ten Most Misused Bible Verse&rdquo; competition, &lsquo;cause 1 Chronicles 12:32 would be right up there near the top!<br />
<blockquote><span style="color: #008000">&nbsp;32 men of Issachar, who understood the times and knew what Israel should do&mdash;200 chiefs, with all their relatives under their command;</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Humor aside (or attempts thereof) &ndash; I am tired of hear people quote 1 Chronicles 12:32 as an excuse to plot out an end of the world timeline. I mean, come on &#8211; have you read 1 Chronicles 12!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the end times or with creating timelines!</p>
<p>It is actually very simple &ndash; Israel is in a civil war and the men of Issachar want to be on the winning side. <u>Period.</u></p>
<p>That&rsquo;s it. </p>
<p>200 warlords recognized that David was going to be <span style="color: #000000">the next king of Israel &ndash; </span><span style="color: #000000">so they move their loyalties from Saul to David, most likely so that they could gain wealth, prestige or land when the war was over.&nbsp; </span>[@more@]<br />
<blockquote><span style="color: #008000">&nbsp; 38 All these were fighting men who volunteered to serve in the ranks. They came to Hebron fully determined to make David king over all Israel.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #800000">In other words, the whole &ldquo;men of Issachar who understood the times&rdquo; deal is nothing more then a political power play.</span>&nbsp; As such, please not quote it to me to justify your un-Biblical desire to map out the end times. Just be honest &ndash; you want know how much longer you have to put up with this crappy world before you can escape to the glory realm of heaven.</p>
<p>Well, I&rsquo;m sorry to disappoint you &ndash; but we are going to be on this planet a long time. Heaven is coming to earth; not the other way around. Granted, the earth will be renewed, death, sin, evil and all &ldquo;crappiness&rdquo; will be removed (Praise the Lord!) &ndash; but it will be this earth nonetheless.</p>
<p>As such, I pray that we will stop trying to create timelines and start doing the work of the Father. Sure it is ok to look up time to time and see what God is doing as Jesus himself said &ldquo;keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.&rdquo; (Matthew 24: 42). </p>
<p>Note that &ldquo;keep watch&rdquo; means just that &ndash; keep watch. Not &ldquo;here is a cryptic road map of the future, good luck at figuring it out&rdquo;. <img src="http://bluecastle.us/js/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" /></p>
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